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Offline AJL

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Fish Tales
« on: November 16, 2009, 09:32:45 AM »
1) We are investigating fluctuations and declines in fish populations (various species) and their impact upon  breeding, nest productivity and migration.

2) Doug has expressed interest in evaluating how reliant the Hornbys are upon midshipmen in nesting season. To that end, we might help him by recording deliveries in the ONZ observation thread and attempt to identify species, and estimate sizes of fish delivered. (Identification and size estimates part will require input from Doug and Raptorman, if they're willing).

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Re: Fish Research Place
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2009, 10:39:45 PM »
The Toronto Sun, Sun. Nov. 15, 2009-- travel section-- "Where eagles dare and hearts soar" - Sunny Dhillon ( the Canadian Press)

The following was taken from this article:

Brachendale, British Columbia-- Eagles are drawn to the area by the abundance of chum salmon in the Squamish, Cheakamus and Mamquam Rivers.

The number of bald eagles visiting Brackendale has dropped. Between 1992 and 2007 the count was never less than 1,300, but in 2008, that figure dropped to 893 and this year it fell to 755.

Myke Chutter, a bird specialist with B.C. environment ministry says there's no cause for alarm as the overall number of bald eagles in B.C. remains firm at 60,000 and the species is by no means endangered. The birds are just going somewhere other than Brackendale.

"I can only presume that for whatever reason, the food resource has either declined there or improved significantly nearby, such that the birds are choosing a different site," he said.

Instead of presuming, we hope that this thread may lead to knowledge on why this large decline in eagles in this area and is it because of a decline in their food resource for them and other eagles.

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Re: Fish Research Place
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2009, 11:45:50 PM »
Sockeye Salmon

CBC news August 13, 2009
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2009/08/12/bc-fraser-river-sockeye-salmon-closure.html
Fraser River sockeye:  7% of the number predicted, returned. 
Salmon fishery closed for the third year in a row.

What is the cause? Quote executive director of Watershed Watch Salmon Society:
"Whether it's as juveniles leaving the system, or as adults returning, they are not getting the food in the high seas. Canada needs to get its act together and get some real investigation going on what's happening to these fish".

Quote from article:
Scientists, environmentalists, politicians and fish farmers have been arguing for years about the impact salmon farms are having on young salmon fry, with many opponents of fish farms predicting sea lice from the industrial operations would decimate wild salmon stocks.

2006 Inventory; includes report on probable causes: http://www.watershed-watch.org/publications/files/SCBC_sockeye_review.pdf
http://www.watershed-watch.org/publications/files/SCBC_sockeye_review.pdf
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Re: Fish Research Place
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2009, 12:59:22 AM »
Alexandra Morton http://alexandramorton.typepad.com/about.html writes:  "Salmon farms are feedlots which release all of their manure into public waters. I have seen the progression of their impact and I have published my findings in scientific journals around the world. At times I have received funding and at other times I have not. I will continue to try and bring reason to this situation simply because I love these waters that have become my home." 

In her interesting blog, http://alexandramorton.typepad.com/ she invites people to "sign a letter to Canadian Minister of Fisheries asking for the laws of Canada to be Applied to fish farming". There is much worth reading here, with links to recent posts, comments and films.
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Re: Fish Research Place
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2009, 08:53:30 AM »
Oooh,  a letter we can sign - good one Madrona!

 :puzzled2 Is there a place anyone on the forum (e.g. conservation area) where there might be a "take action" thread where those interested could learn where and how to throw their might behind serious and well-organized actions like this? 

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Re: Fish Research Place
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2009, 02:05:12 PM »
Can anyone sign Madrona or just Canadian citizens? I am sure we have our own salmon manure ponds right here in the USA if not allowed  :ecsmile

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Re: Fish Research Place
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2009, 04:31:47 PM »
Cawatcher - That petition invites US citizens to sign too.  It asks for your State and one of the categories you can check is USA Salmon Consumer or Concerned World Citizen.  So I'd say go for it!  :eclove
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Re: Fish Research Place
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2009, 08:37:14 PM »
I have been supporting Alexandra Morton and her research for years.  We were so excited getting up to 10,000 names on the petition - now it is 30,000+.  She presented the petition in the B.C. Legislature when we reached that first goal but it didn't impress the politicians.

The best news is recent:

Thank you SO much to ALL of you for contacting your MPs and the Prime Minister of Canada.  A Judicial Inquiry into the disappearance of the Fraser sockeye salmon has just been called by Prime Minister Harper!

We don't know the scope of this Inquiry yet, we will learn that tomorrow, so optimism is cautious.  It is essential that the scope of the mandate include review of events in the marine environment

This is the first step to straightening out the tangled politics that I feel is killing our wild fish and I owe great thanks to you.

Alexandra Morton


The best site to keep on top of the fight to lay the blame on the fish farms is here:

http://alexandramorton.typepad.com/
 
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Re: Fish Research Place
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2009, 01:39:21 PM »
Received an email from Alexandra this morning with the correct number of signatures on the Petition:

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Twenty thousand, two hundred forty-three (20,243) people have now signed the letter on my website www.adopt-a-fry.org <http://www.adopt-a-fry.org>  insisting that you apply the Fisheries Act to “farming” salmon.
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Re: Fish Research Place
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2010, 12:23:06 PM »
From Alexandra Morton this morning:

...important news on the issue of salmon farming has become daily.  Most astonishing is the warning sent today to Canada from former Attorney General of Norway, Georg Fredrik Rieber-Mohn,

“we  had an open goal to save wild salmon but we missed the target,”....”If you want to protect wild salmon then you have to move salmon farms away from migration routes.”


This is significant because our fish farms are Norwegian.
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Re: Fish Research Place
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2010, 02:58:45 PM »
Good news thank you attorney general of Norway, because we know that once Norweigian lost their wild salmon they came here with the all mighty dollar & convinced our money hungry greedy politicians to allow the farms here. Yay, because we are not far from losing our salmon. There is talk of putting a farm off the coast of Uclulet, hopefully it won't go through. There is no reason they can't build pens on the main land to continue to farm the altantic salmon. Fingers crossed.



Is there a certain number of signatures that are needed to but a stop to the insanity :question

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Re: Fish Research Place
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2010, 08:33:42 PM »
passerine,

It will take more than signatures to stop them.
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Re: Fish Research Place
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2010, 09:19:35 PM »
passerine,

It will take more than signatures to stop them.

Oh i know that, but it is one step in many that may help even if it's a little bit.
For some petitions with a certain number of sigs they will sometimes at least postpone & look deeper into something. Like getting referendums.

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Re: Fish Research Place
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2010, 01:22:48 PM »
Please Sign the Letter to Canada Fisheries Minister Gail Shea

Alexandra Morton’s letter to Gail Shea has stalled at just over 20,000 signatories. Even with this many people asking for the laws of Canada to be applied to the aquaculture industry, the minister won’t listen! Please sign the letter if you haven’t already, and get your friends and family to sign on as well!

You can find it at http://www.adopt-a-fry.org/

When there were 10,000 signatures, Alexandra took it to the B.C. Legislature and it made no difference.  Since then, the number of signatures have doubled and the fish farms have been placed under federal Fisheries (from Provincial).

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Yesterday there was a big Wild Salmon Rally in Vancouver with over 200 people in attendance.  They marched through the city to the Olympic Flame.




http://www.wildsalmoncircle.com/
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Re: Fish Research Place
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2010, 02:04:35 PM »
I love the placard of the bear holding an empty plate - no salmon for dinner. :sad
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